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A Sustainable Future – with Dr. Phil De Luna

April 20, 2022
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Join energy coaches David Arkell and John Pooley, producer Lysandra Naom, and former Director of Materials for Clean Fuels at National Research Council Canada (NRCC) Dr. Phil De Luna on an episode all about a sustainable future. This episode features what a sustainable future looks like and who is responsible, the role of government, what business' can do to get involved, incentives and more. This episode was recorded on March 9th, 2022. Phil has since left his role as Director of Materials for Clean Fuels at National Research Council Canada (NRCC).

Highlights

  • Dr. Phil De Luna’s Background: A highly cited researcher and sustainability advocate, Dr. De Luna has contributed to the fields of CO₂ conversion and materials science, gaining recognition for his work on climate and energy solutions.
  • Five-Step Net Zero Plan: Protecting natural resources to preserve carbon sinks like forests. Expanding renewables as they become more cost-effective than fossil fuels. Electrifying infrastructure such as homes, industry, and transportation. Addressing hard-to-abate sectors like cement, steel, and fertilizers. Capturing and storing CO₂ from the atmosphere to manage residual emissions.
  • Canada’s Energy Landscape: With 82% of electricity from non-carbon sources, Canada must decarbonize its grid's remaining fossil fuel share and reduce emissions in transportation, heavy industry, and building sectors.
  • Systems-Level Approach: De Luna highlights that individual actions alone are insufficient, advocating for systemic changes across corporate and governmental policies to drive impactful emissions reductions
  • Role of Government in Sustainability: Governments should provide stability and support in research and development, using incentives, policies, and guarantees to foster private investment and facilitate the adoption of new technologies.

Key Insights

  • Importance of Collective Action: Systemic and organizational efforts, not just individual choices, are critical for meaningful carbon reductions. Large-scale industries and sectors with high emissions have a significant role in this transition.
  • Incentives for Adoption: Although incentives like subsidies can help with initial costs, long-term savings often make sustainable choices economically viable even without them. The challenge is overcoming the initial sticker shock of green investments.
  • Need for Stability in Policy: Policy consistency enables businesses to plan confidently and invest in sustainable technologies without fear of sudden regulatory changes that could undermine long-term goals.
  • Public-Private Collaboration: By coordinating with industry and facilitating research and technology development, governments can act as enablers rather than sole implementers in the sustainability transition.
  • Canada’s Scale-Up Challenge: De Luna notes Canada’s risk-averse culture and conservative approach as barriers to scaling sustainable innovations domestically, often leading to these technologies being scaled elsewhere.
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Hosts:
David Arkell

David Arkell

President & CEO

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John Pooley

John Pooley

Vice-President, Program Development

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Lysandra Naom

Lysandra Naom

Project Manager

ENWIN Solutons

Dr. Phil De Luna

Dr. Phil De Luna

Chief Carbon Scientist and Head of Engineering

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